H2 Therapy – Fight Disease, Obesity, Inflammation, & Allergies
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Nick: Dr. Nick Delgado here. I’m with Tyler LeBaron and we’re going to
talk about an amazing discovery that will help influence the quality of your life, your
energy, and quite likely what we call oxidative stress, free radical damage, and even the
source of energy, mitochondria, where the powerhouse of all of our body’s energy is
created. Tyler, you took on a sensei, a master from
Japan. Tell me about that story and how did that
bring you to this hydrogen story. I’m going to start with this little demonstration. We’ve got just pure water and I’m dropping
a tablet on the top and as I drop the tablet in, we’ll see what happens. Well, it’s starting to bubble, so I’m assuming
this is some kind of a hydrogen gas that’s being liberated. So tell me first about the sensei, the master. What’s his name and the university? And tell me about the science. That was intriguing. I guess you were an undergraduate and you
were looking to do an internship, so tell me about that. Tyler: Correct, yeah. I came across hydrogen gas around 2009 and
I became very interested. I started reading all the articles. I did a couple of undergraduate research projects
to try to understand this a bit more. And from a biochemistry degree, I needed to
fulfill an internship, and so I wanted to do that with hydrogen gas. There were a couple of places that were doing
hydrogen at the time, Loma Linda University, Pittsburgh University, a couple of other ones
that are in Japan. So what I did is I emailed who I felt were
the top research groups and I asked them if I could do my internship and do research in
hydrogen gas and a number of them responded back and said I could come. I narrowed it down. I chose Nagoya University because it’s one
of the most prestigious universities. I believe it’s the fifth most prestigious
there in Japan, a lot of Nobel Prize winners there. And so, I had the opportunity to go to Nagoya
Daigaku as how they say it in Japanese, the university. It was a great experience there. I was there for a couple of months. We researched basically the effects of hydrogen
gas on various signaling pathways because that’s really my main interest, my main focus. Coming from a biochemistry background, we
see in cells and tissues and human studies and animals studies that hydrogen gas is having
all of these effects, but the question of how, how was it really doing this, what are
the primary targets, the actual underlying molecular mechanisms of how hydrogen gas is
working still is elusive. And so, I tried to do some research to figure
out how hydrogen gas is modulating or having involvement in some of these signal transduction
pathways and it was a great experience. I learned a lot. Dr. Ohno, who’s my mentor there, as I’ve mentioned,
I was very interested in his story of how he got into hydrogen gas and research. He’s very well-respected in academia. He’d done a number of things, even worked
at the Mayo Clinic here. He’s the vice dean of Nagoya University and
professor of neurogenetics. He heard about hydrogen gas and people were
saying all these things and he was very skeptical at first, but he thought he would just do
an in-house study. And so, he actually took rats and injected
them with a toxin to induce Parkinson’s disease and then did a randomized trial and found
that those drinking hydrogen-rich water — the drinking of hydrogen-rich water totally prevented
the development of Parkinson’s disease. Nick: Wow! Now, I know there’ve been nearly 600 studies. There’s been an explosion in research once
they found some of the early pilot studies and that information is also now crossing
over to ongoing clinical studies on humans, and you also are part of a nonprofit foundation. What is the name of that foundation and what
is the work that’s come out on these human studies? Tyler: It’s the Molecular Hydrogen Foundation. I started this because I believe that hydrogen
gas has great therapeutic potential, very high safety profile, and I like to see more
research being done, more education, more awareness. It’s just a science-based nonprofit that’s
dedicated to the research and awareness of hydrogen gas. There are a few human studies, maybe 30 or
40 that are completed and probably another 30 or 40 that are already underway. It’s taken enormous — like you said, the
biomedical community has really taken great interest in the properties of hydrogen gas,
the therapeutic molecule. It really started about the year 2007. Before 2007, there were maybe around 50 articles
or so that suggested that hydrogen gas may play a biological important effect in the
articles done by Baylor University and Texas A&M in 1975 and published in the prestigious
Journal of Science, but then not a lot of research since then was done. [0:05:06] But then in 2007, Dr. Shigeo Ohta from Nippon
Medical School published a groundbreaking paper that showed hydrogen could act as a
selective antioxidant and scavenges the toxic hydroxyl radicals. And because that journal has such a high reputation
amongst academia, that really spun a great hydrogen interest. And now, as you’ve mentioned, there are now
over 600 articles that talk about the benefits of hydrogen gas in over 150 different human
and animal disease models. Nick: On your website, does it have links
to some of these research articles? Tyler: Correct. If you go to my website, you click on “Studies”
and then it has them categorized in different things, so you can just click on the link
and it takes you right to the Pubmed article or the actual journal. Nick: So because some people have heard that
antioxidants play a role in preventing to reducing free radical damage, but to an extent,
you eloquently explained in our coming podcast the idea that we need a little bit of oxidative
stress. We need a little bit of inflammation for the
body to sometimes respond because there’s been some studies where they more or less
suppressed all aspects of oxidative stress and free radical damage and somehow — like
in the case of athletes, they didn�t seem to notice any improvement, but when they’re
under some demand and the body responds with the hydrogen molecule, their body has this
molecule that comes in along with — potentially it may work synergistically with nitric oxide,
which that’s tremendous possibility. Now we’re talking, right? [0:10:00] Tyler: Yeah, absolutely. So going back to what you’re saying with the
free radicals, absolutely free radicals as we know is linked to the pathogenesis of virtually
every disease because it can damage DNA, RNA, proteins, cell membranes, so we know that
having too much free radicals is very damaging. However, as I’ve mentioned, there are small
amounts that we need because life is balanced between this oxidation reduction, right? And so, we can have oxidative stress. We can also have reductive stress. In fact, a new article showed that one of
the primary things of aging is actually not enough oxidative stress in the endoplasmic
reticulum, which is important for folding proteins. You have misfolded proteins so you don�t
have enough oxidation there and you can’t get the right proteins. And then you have too much reductive stress
or oxidative stress in the cytosols, not enough reductive stress in the same cell, not enough
reductive stress in one area and too much oxidative in another. So this is a very important balance that we
have here. Life is balanced, like I said, between oxidation
and reduction. We look at free radicals like nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is a very, very important molecule. . The whole thing with the inorganic nitrate
is booming, beet juice — Nick: Yeah, we use a product loaded with plant
nitrates and — Tyler: Oh, is that right? Nick: Tremendous benefit to people. Tyler: Right. That’s a whole new research that’s been coming
out in the last decade or so. The whole nitrate/nitrite/nitric oxide pathway
is just a phenomenal area. The nitric oxide — it’s interesting. It’s a free radical and so we don�t want
to neutralize that and it’s also interesting because it’s also a gas. And when they first started doing research
on this whole nitric oxide or this endothelial or vascular-releasing factor, someone hypothesized
it was a gas and it was kind of laughed at like gasses can’t do that. Well then of course it won a Nobel Prize. Nick: Right, 1998, Lou Ignarro and his team. Tyler: Now, consider that hydrogen gas may
be following in some extent the same lines because we have other gas signaling molecules
like carbon monoxide, hydrogen sulfide, nitric oxide, and now hydrogen gas maybe is considered
in some extent a fourth gas signaling molecule. Nick: So I’m noticing that the bottle is getting
firmer, so there’s this gas building up. Instead of just dropping the tablet in the
glass of water, it would fizz away and you’d lose a lot of the benefit. I’m intrigued because I started this product
yesterday and I’m en route in time for the Arnold Classic in March, which is about five
months away, to have totally ripped abs like I did at my last world record appearance more
than a year ago and there’s some fascination with athletes and I say look, be at your top
performance. Overcome lactic acid. Recover from intense workouts then you can
put in more intensity, and the more the intensity, the better the muscle, the strength, the power. So if I use this product — you and I talked
about a dose relationship. It’s possible that two or three tablets a
day is enough, but some athletes might find that they use it in intervals if they come
back for a later training and use it two or three hours apart. Just drop in a tablet, mix it with the whole
thing of water and drink the whole thing down, yeah? Tyler: Yeah, absolutely. Everyone is going to respond a little bit
differently. When you look at studies from a cell culture,
we see that higher concentrations in the millimolar range or a PPM range in the cell is very therapeutic,
even more therapeutic than a lower concentration. So when you’re drinking this and you’re diluting
it down by all the body water then you have very low concentration, so there does appear
to be a dose-dependent effect in some cases, not all. Many people have experienced a greater benefit
like taking more hydrogen. Nick: So elite athletes could take this legally
because it’s a hydrogen molecule and the byproduct is just H2O. It excretes out as water, so it’s the most
non-toxic sports performance potential of anything I’ve ever come across. Is that what I’m reading into this? Tyler: Yeah, pretty much. I would say it’s probably the most natural
supplement there is because every single time that we eat fibers, fruits and vegetables,
the bacteria in our intestines, our microflora, which has been talked about for a long time,
the benefits of that, can actually metabolize that fiber to produce hydrogen gas. So we actually have a — Nick: It’s starting to screw it out, yeah,
the hydrogen gas. So that fiber in the gut helps to build up
some or release some hydrogen gasses. This is part of the process since the beginning
of man. Tyler: Exactly, so we’ve always been exposed
to hydrogen gas, so this is something that’s very — Nick: Oh, what’s it doing? It’s changing, so should I drink it? Tyler: Sure. Nick: Oh, it’s going all over the place. What’s happening? Tyler: You can see all the gas trying to come
out, coming out of solution. Nick: So I want to seal it in between swigs,
right? Tyler: Yeah, to help minimize some of the
gas dissipation out. Nick: Well, there’s virtually no taste. It’s got a little something I detect, but
it’s important that it’s clean water because you don�t want it mixing and becoming hydrogen
sulfate or something like that and drop out of solution, in other words. Tyler: Yeah, because there are two things. Hydrogen gas itself is odorless, tasteless. It’s just a gas, but the way that you’re using
hydrogen-producing tablets that uses specific formula to the reactions to water to produce
hydrogen gas, that’s what gives a slight taste and different things that I guess some people
like. Nick: So a number of athletes are using this
now and noticing tremendous enhancement in their performance. Tyler: Yeah, but specifically I would say
in recovery. When you consider the fact that — we’ve talked
about ATP yesterday, so when you consider that your body needs and for a normal person
about the same weight in ATP that you weigh, so if you weigh 150 pounds, you need about
150 pounds of ATP that your body resynthesizes. If you’re an elite athlete and you’re going
out really training, you may need twice your weight, so that’s 300 pounds if you’re a 150-pound
person. That’s a lot of ATP. Well, the primary guy that makes the ATP in
our cells is the mitochondria and that makes most of the ATP. Well, as you’re exercising really hard and
you maybe get too much free radicals or there’s oxidative stress, you can start to compromise
or damage the free radicals and now you’re not making much ATP. Now you’re going to have to rely on glycolysis,
which you start producing more lactate or what people call lactate acid and all these
other things start happening. Well, with the hydrogen gas, a lot of the
research is showing that one of the targets maybe there was the mitochondria. Actually, it’s very interesting. If you look back from the evolutionary with
hydrogenases and different things you’re going to get into, but its similarities to mitochondria,
it makes a lot of sense. Hydrogen gas may be stimulated in the mitochondria
to produce more ATP, maintain mitochondria membrane potential, activate a different compost
of mitochondria, allow you to make that ATP so you stay and have the energy that you need. Nick: So an average Joe weekend athlete may
not push themselves hard enough to notice the real benefit. It’s when you’re really doing intense exercise,
really putting it out there. I lift nonstop for an hour. I go through really intense workouts, I love
it, and the recovery is everything. The sustainability of that energy throughout
the routine is critical, so coming back strong and being able to perform, this really can
give me an edge in my performance, probably one that I would look forward to. Tyler: Yeah, I would think so. Everyone is going to be different, of course. The weekend warrior needs — in some extent,
it may actually be better for them to take that product because the elite athlete, they’re
continuously making free radicals all the time. When you make free radicals, you activate
various pathways in the body and you’ll be able to handle free radicals better. Nick: Right. Initially, the more you exercise, the more
free radical damage you produce then the body clears it better. Tyler: The weekend warriors haven’t adapted
to that, so they’re making tons of oxidative stress. So it could in some extent be more important
for them to take the hydrogen and prevent an excessive amount of oxidative — Nick: And it’s okay if I stack it with another
tablet in there, right? Tyler: Oh, sure. Nick: Okay, good! So dose-related, there’ve been times where
people have used multiple tablets and no toxic effect because the only byproduct is H2O,
water excreted out of the system. [0:15:01] Tyler: Yeah, and the byproduct comes when
hydrogen gas reacts selectively with the hydroxyl radicals. So 1-hydro molecule, H2, reacts with 2-hydroxyl
radicals, which is OH neutral to form two molecules of water. That’s a very big thing because when you consider
something like Vitamin C or other antioxidants, when that acts as an antioxidant, Vitamin
C gives away its electrons. Now, Vitamin C is now oxidized so the body
has to rejuvenate that or eliminate it — Nick: Or clear it because it becomes toxic,
too, potentially. Tyler: It could be a pro-oxidant, right? Nick: Yes. Tyler: In this case, hydrogen, there’s no
byproduct, it just forms water. If you consider — there’s I would say five
reasons why hydrogen gasses appear as antioxidant and one of them, as we’ve mentioned, there’s
no byproduct. The other is it’s selective. It’s only going to scavenge the most toxic
radicals like the hydroxyl radicals leaving the beneficial signaling molecules alone like
nitric oxide, superoxide anion radical, hydrogen peroxide and a number of other ones, so it’s
going to go after just the toxic ones. So we have no byproduct, we have selectivity,
and we have bioavailability. Bioavailability is the fact that hydrogen
gas is the smallest molecule in the universe. It’s half the size of oxygen. They permeate and penetrate your cells and
subcellular compartments, mitochondria, nucleus, blood-brain barrier easier and faster than
anything. Hydrogen gas has the highest rate of diffusivity,
so it can get through there very, very easily. That’s why you can put the hydrogen here but
if you leave that for a week or so, all the hydrogen gas would be gone because it’d go
right out the container, right through the pores of the plastic bottle. Nick: Oh wow! Interesting. So as I use this product, I’m thinking back
to over 38 years of looking under microscopy people’s free radical damage exhibited by
polymerized protein puddles and I would send that off for lipid peroxidase studies from
Genova Lab. We would do breath analysis, measure massive
amounts of free radical damage in most people who have clinical health problems, arthritis,
Parkinson’s, neurological disorders, possibly even cancer. And so, what we’re saying here is by getting
that extra electron to go to the unpaired electron, you stop this chain reaction of
damage in the tissues itself. Tyler: Yes. It’s a termination step instead of a propagation
step. Nick: Yeah, and I used to — and I still do. I use high altitude conditioning where it
cycles high and low, 22,000 feet drop in 1000 feet per second, which is the only thing I
found effective besides running stadium stairs and doing intense exercise in addition, but
those things seem to clear up a lot of the free radical damage. What you have here, a novel way, and you told
me about an arthritic who experienced this. Did they respond favorably with this product,
hydrogen? How did they respond? Tyler: There’ve been a number of people that
I know and again, these are just anecdotal testimonials and stuff. You can say placebo and whatnot, but there
becomes at a point where there are so many people that experience benefits that almost
is more of an empirical evidence if you will that people would take this and maybe they
walk very good. This one lady, she cannot walk upstairs without
pain. I think after the first day she took it, she
was able to get up in the morning and she walked down the stairs no problem whatsoever,
so it’s very powerful. And there is a human study, a fairly well
controlled human study on rheumatoid arthritis and it showed a number of the patients actually
had a complete reversal of the symptoms. They wouldn’t even be diagnosed as having
the issue anymore. Nick: Wow, so their arthritic pain is completely
gone, very good. So back to my original goal, I’m headed to
the Arnold Classic in five months. I’m training all out more than I’ve ever trained
effectively, concentrating on eating whole plant foods, doing the right things, balancing
my hormones, positive mindset. And when I add this hydrogen gas therapy,
is it likely that I’ll achieve my ripped abs sooner en route to my world record pace where
I’m lifting as well? Will I notice potentially reduction in body
fat? Is this an agent that might help people reduce
body fat? Tyler: Well, it’s possible. There’s a study by Nature Publishing Group
in the Journal of Obesity that actually found that drinking hydrogen-rich water — and this
is an animal model — drinking hydrogen-rich water had the same effect as about — I think
it was a 15% calorie restriction diet and then there was actually a synergistic effect
when there’s a calorie restriction as well as the administration of hydrogen gas. Hydrogen gas could activate the fibroblast
growth hormone 21 which stimulates energy metabolism, and so you end up just burning
more energy and whatnot, so it’s possible. I would say it’s more possible than not, I
guess. Nick: So practitioners are now obtaining this
product. Since I plan to make it available to practitioners,
they have an opportunity to really report back the data and the findings because we’re
all in this at a very challenging time in medical history where the system is just overtaxed. It just can’t possibly keep up with the rate
it’s going. [0:20:05] So if we use novel, safe treatments that can
go synergistically with the practitioners around the world that I work with and motivate,
I think that we really have something here that’s worth looking into. I’m totally going to report back here in several
weeks as soon as I notice differences and changes. How soon might I notice the difference? What’s the earliest and maybe the latest that
people notice the difference in their body physiology and improvement with hydrogen therapy? Tyler: Well, that’s a good question. Everyone’s different, kind of just what I’ve
heard from the field, if you will. Some people notice it literally within hours. Maybe they have a reduction of pain, or they’ll
take it — people who work out, those have very quick recovery. They can just go set after set after set and
just keep going, just not feel fatigued. They get more alert, more energy — Nick: I so love it. That’s how I train. I’ve got to sustain — that’s how I break
records because I go set after set with no pause. Tyler: Right, and some of the studies have
shown reduction in lactic acid because you’re likely improving the function of the mitochondria
— Nick: Well, there is some lactic acid needed
and pyruvic acid that stimulate muscular growth, but like you said, it’s a balance. There’s only a little bit needed, but the
rest is excess and it’s going to shut you down. Tyler: Right, exactly, so it’s not that it’s
preventing it and that it’s a negative thing. It’s just that the reason it’s not being produced
is because you’re getting your ATP from the mitochondria so you’re functioning more optimally
and it’s not that lactic acid is totally bad. It’s usually in a different pathway through
the Krebs cycle. Nick: So Tyler, are you telling me there are
some studies that show an increased production of ATP and sometimes it’s even outside of
the mitochondria? Tyler: Yeah. Well, there are different pathways that make
ATP. One is glycolysis and that’s to make a little
bit of ATP, then there’s the mitochondria that make most of ATP. Hydrogen gas likely stimulates the mitochondria
to produce more ATP especially when it gets compromised. It helps to protect the mitochondria from
damage. Then there’s another article published from
Washington State University that actually suggests that hydrogen can increase ATP production
via the Jagendorf reaction which is in the mitochondria, but not necessarily with electron
transport chain, so it’s very interesting. Nick: I love it. I love your scientific intensity about the
subject because biochemistry has always fascinated me and I think that it’s kind of that frontier
that sometimes is so intimidating and complex that the lay public doesn�t appreciate some
of the things you’re explaining here, but bottom line is you’re looking at better — for
extreme performers, better performance, better quality of sleep, better energy, possibly
even longevity as we understand it because all of aging relates to tissue degeneration,
inflammation, and oxidative stress. Tyler: Yeah. It seems to be a medical dream gas, if you
will. It’s interesting. I was actually on the phone with my mentor. We’re writing a very comprehensive review
article on hydrogen. I’ve gone through every article. I found that hydrogen so far can alter over
200 different biomolecules whether they’d be transcription factors, no gene regulation. It’s just amazing, but they’re doing some
studies right now. We can’t disclose all the details, but it
appears in some extent that hydrogen basically can act as an exercise mimetic, so the whole
exercise-in-a-pill type thing, hydrogen, because it stimulates some of the same pathways that
exercise does. So again, we’re interested in the primary
target of how is hydrogen gas doing this. It’s very phenomenal, what we’re finding. Nick: So the couch potato might sit on the
couch and actually get the benefits of some indirect — Tyler: I guess some benefits, yeah. Nick: It reminds me, there was the A-bomb
and the H-bomb, which is far more powerful and of course it’s a different mechanism completely. However, I think of this as my H-bomb. I’m going into battle to exercise and to get
in top shape. Thank you very much, Tyler. Dr. Nick Delgado of Simply Healthy TV, subscribe
to our channel. Follow the segments. You’re going to be impressed at what we’re
about to reveal as I follow this story with Tyler LeBaron and his nonprofit organization,
which is — Tyler: Molecular Hydrogen Foundation. Nick: Very good. We’re going to bust all the records. You watch. Talk to you soon.


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  7. This Dr Dick is a douchebag , just watch , he doesn't care about the Science and studies he just wants to showcase his supplements and himself , everything he says and they way he asks his question are laid out so you think the benefits of the research are about this product he is selling , Tyler W. LeBaron if anybody cares ,as it is not in the title or in the description , is a world class expert trained in Japan , who are leading this technology on the subject of H2 ,he is the Executive director of the Molecular Hydrogen Foundation and Institute .Tyler is much too kind to say ,I don't know what is in you sudsy little bottle but the research we are talking about is not based on your product and I can't verify the validity of any snake oil ! What a disingenuous interview by Dr Dick !!! Good job !

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